Officially existing Holy Grails of Art.

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I just heard that NKG's has the Deities and Demigods orginal Erol Otus cover painting. And a confirmation that the MM exists in the hands of a dormant collector in Hollywood. And a confirmation that Gary Gygax owns the PHB original cover. All told we already know Stormberg has the DMG cover.

I find just knowing this stuff exists to be quite awesome.

Ralf Toth · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:27 pm Post subject:

I would give anything for the PHB cover. *drools on tie*

Unfortunately, anything won't be enough. Sad

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scribe · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject:

Just heard it has been willed to his son Ernie someday down the road. It could take a long time for that item to hit the market.

Elwood Blues · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject:

We personally believe that more of the original art survived than previously thought. I think alot of it is in the hands of ex-TSR employees and will slowly surface over the next decade or so. Several pieces were sold at GenCon this year(Battle of Britain cover, GD&H cover, SnarfQuest) and the Greyhawk Bugbear is expected next year(dibs Laughing

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Ralf Toth · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:25 pm Post subject:

Purely speculatice: How much do you guys think Stormberg paid for the DMG cover art? I hope it wasn't less than $10K.
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TheShield · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:

I can't understand the hype. Everybody can have an original PHB painting. Look mine :
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-9/1079020/PHBp.jpg

Elwood Blues · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:05 pm Post subject:

scribe · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject:

The MM sold to that collector for $4,500 a couple of years back. He also bought Q1 cover and who knows whatever else he might have snatched up.

I am guessing Paul paid between $3-5k.

Ralf Toth · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject:

Do you think $10.000 would have been too much? Would it make less than that if sold on eBay this christmas? I am no art expert. But considering the money people shelled out for the Kuntz auctions, is it that unrealistic?
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scribe · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:40 pm Post subject:

I have a strong feeling that those hallmark pieces could gain between $10K and 15K at any time of the year.

scribe · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:17 pm Post subject:

Things I could buy with 15k......

1. An awesome work van
2. payoff 1/3 of our house.
3. put an addition on the house....a full glass conservatory off the kitchen.
4. Put in a full brand new chef's kitchen in the house.
5. Do a full on landscape construction project with new plants.
6. Pay for my Workmen's Comp insurance for this year ending in a few short months. Crying or Very sad

Ralf Toth · Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:50 pm Post subject:

scribe · Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:38 pm Post subject:

I have to pay it for my employees (whether I have them or not!!) It is very costly. Basically accounts for 7% of gross profits less material expenses and subcontractors who provide proof of their own workman's comp. insurance.

Long story short.....it really fucking sucks.
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Ralf Toth · Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:03 am Post subject:

Wow, but then you must have a very nice gross profit and can't complaing about lousy 15.000 bucks. Twisted Evil

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scribe · Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:01 am Post subject:

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Ralf Toth · Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:13 am Post subject:

Don't cry Scribey. There's always one whose situation is worse. In that case, it's me.
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scribe · Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:12 pm Post subject:

Well, its not the gross profit that is a problem. In fact, that would be fantastic if I could hold onto it. Unfortunately, net profit is what I get to keep after all expenses. And that is quite a bit different.
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Ralf Toth · Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:29 pm Post subject:

OK, trying to improve my non-existant business english. Please correct me where wrong:

turnover minus costs = gross profit

gross profit minus taxes / write-offs = net profit
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scribe · Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:44 pm Post subject:

Ah! Close but it gets worse.....

Gross profits = total receipts

write-offs minus gross = net profit

Taxes = 30% of Net Profit
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scribe · Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:17 pm Post subject:

Oh heck. I almost forgot about Fiend Folio. Doesn't this one exist? It could be in Hollywood as well.

Dragons of Desolation original cover sold on ebay circa 2000. It netted $5000 from memory.....which was a record at one time. Aaron used to run auctions for the DL trilogy prints. In the auction description he described seeing the originals sell for over $10,000 each at auction. Be it ebay or other I never really knew for sure. I will ask him via email.
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